[spyne] [Soap-Python] How keep Python 3 moving forward - suds & Python 3

Burak Arslan burak.arslan at arskom.com.tr
Fri May 30 08:17:18 UTC 2014

On 30/05/14 09:55, Dariusz Suchojad wrote:
> On 05/30/2014 08:43 AM, Burak Arslan wrote:
> [About suds]
>> Also, it can't do async because unlike Spyne, transports are not
>> pluggable.
> Just for the record - I use suds-jurko asynchronously in Zato, which is
> based on gunicorn/gevent, just fine.

Well, you're correct. Gevent does give you a sync interface on top of an 
async foundation. But when I said async, I was thinking of twisted-like 
event driven programming. I should have said "suds can't be used in an 
event-driven way".

After having heard what Guido said about greenlet (look up his pycon 
2013 keynote), I must have totally erased it from my memory :) And I 
agree with him you know, I won't rely on the insanity of monkeypatching 
the whole stdlib in order to do task switching in userspace: 

Which also doesn't invalidate the pluggable transports point. Correct me 
if I'm wrong but last time I looked, you couldn't do Soap over ZeroMQ, 
msgpack or twisted with suds.

I need to admit though: Spyne's client bits are not as complete as I'd 
like. But I hope to eventually offer client support in Spyne that is on 
par with server support. And it just would be so nice if somebody helped 
me with that!

Best regards,

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